tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post206691900248087596..comments2023-10-30T06:51:58.621-07:00Comments on Disillusioned Mormon: Elder Ballard Encourages Members to Create BlogsBrother Zelphhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10138332337674962461noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-69884541142175348162008-06-17T19:22:00.000-07:002008-06-17T19:22:00.000-07:00Friends,Before Someone starts telling me I've not ...Friends,<BR/><BR/>Before Someone starts telling me I've not given conclusive evidence, I wanted to say it first.<BR/><BR/>In time I will show you the rest of the story I know. And for those who think I'm a walking contradiction, a contradiction I'll show you all. It' won't be just myself.<BR/><BR/> I will double and triple support what I say with evidence of another history that has been James Brian Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889997109571762096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-62302663489622034202008-06-17T10:56:00.000-07:002008-06-17T10:56:00.000-07:00Hmmmmm.......Ouch! I guess I got what I desearve!...Hmmmmm.......Ouch! I guess I got what I desearve! <BR/><BR/>Yes I may sound concieted, humorous and unresearched, ignorant,a blowhard or worse. But I'm not.<BR/><BR/>I'm a self admitted hypocryt and a sinner. Yes for those who cared to comment I'm a contradiction. But not as you've so quickly tried to suggest.<BR/><BR/>Quite honestly I get frusterated with people, who think the LDS church is James Brian Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889997109571762096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-86903373723186650482008-04-05T20:13:00.000-07:002008-04-05T20:13:00.000-07:00James,Your post is humorous. I have to assume you ...James,<BR/><BR/>Your post is humorous. I have to assume you are making a joke as you even contradict yourself. You claim the RLDS is the only true church yet admit that it no longer exists...hmmm. You also claim the posters on this blog are uneducated. Wrong again. Most of the posters here, on both sides of the topic, are very well researched.<BR/><BR/>Good one though.<BR/><BR/>I do wish Zelph Bishop Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05385909789743073477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-23883419722280004772008-03-20T17:08:00.000-07:002008-03-20T17:08:00.000-07:00Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is ver...Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is very interesting, congratulations :-). I will add in my blogroll =). If possible gives a last there on my blog, it is about the <A HREF="http://notebooks-brasil.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Notebook</A>, I hope you enjoy. The address is http://notebooks-brasil.blogspot.com. A hug.<A HREF="6332553182" REL="nofollow"></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-44158257017944471652008-03-17T11:42:00.000-07:002008-03-17T11:42:00.000-07:00James,Plenty of us here treat each other like the ...James,<BR/><BR/>Plenty of us here treat each other like the opposing viewpoint is stupid. You're comment is rather tame, so I doubt Zelph will ban you.<BR/><BR/>I don't know about most people, but I am inclined to believe that members of the LDS Church who've never heard of the RLDS/Community of Christ, must be living under a rock. I've known about the RLDS for as long as I can remember. As a tatabughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01465431241615511545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-62208867879472503962008-03-13T23:07:00.000-07:002008-03-13T23:07:00.000-07:00Hey Folks,I'm a memember/ Ex member of the Reorgan...Hey Folks,<BR/><BR/>I'm a memember/ Ex member of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint's! Ex Memeber because the church left me and became a pitiful wimp of a church named Community of Christ! I still claim RLDS membership! <BR/><BR/>You'all need to study.... You're all so sure the Utah Mormon is/was the one true church, you've forgotten there are 264 other legally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-45333778993398875142008-02-06T04:53:00.000-08:002008-02-06T04:53:00.000-08:00Oh, and another thing. I saw this guy from over a...Oh, and another thing. I saw this guy from over at Mormanity - someone who I have come to really enjoy reading his own thoughts. I especially liked his post with regard to <A HREF="http://latterdayspence.blogspot.com/2008/01/my-paradigm-shift.html" REL="nofollow">his paradigm shift</A> from having read a book entitled 'Rough Stone Rolling'. What do you make of it?NMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17019089593824237385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-11439945585415531352008-02-06T04:48:00.000-08:002008-02-06T04:48:00.000-08:00Zelph,Although for the majority of time I have 'ho...Zelph,<BR/><BR/>Although for the majority of time I have 'hovered', I have enjoyed reading through your posts and also enjoyed reading through the comments that others have made.<BR/><BR/>I feel ambivalent toward your last response, <I>"...I am now focusing my time on other subjects outside of the LDS church and I am in the process of exiting the Mormon community."</I> I both love and hate what NMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17019089593824237385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-69427226293622456642008-02-06T00:05:00.000-08:002008-02-06T00:05:00.000-08:00Tiredmormon- I have always been quite the contrar...Tiredmormon- I have always been quite the contrarian. ;) However, I think I agree with NM that blogging is good and it has helped me organize my thoughts. I have taken a break from blogging as I am now focusing my time on other subjects outside of the LDS church and I am in the process of exiting the Mormon community.Brother Zelphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10138332337674962461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-21604854887960886842008-02-05T06:34:00.000-08:002008-02-05T06:34:00.000-08:00It's good to blog. Blogging is a good way to gath...It's good to blog. Blogging is a good way to gather and consolidate personal thoughts, opinions etc.<BR/><BR/>I think that the collective gathering of thoughts is a good way to determine whether a philosophical thought (usually the current fad) is worth keeping. If it isn't worth keeping, it's interesting to see how people then amend their perspectives and inevitably, their lifestyles =)NMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17019089593824237385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-92038041712758288172008-01-31T07:39:00.000-08:002008-01-31T07:39:00.000-08:00So now that Ballard wants people to blog, you are ...So now that Ballard wants people to blog, you are going to stop blogging? Are you acting out against the mormon hierarchy or are you just being lazy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-90066558236185089362008-01-09T10:04:00.000-08:002008-01-09T10:04:00.000-08:00EJ,I don't see how you addressed any of my points,...EJ,<BR/><BR/>I don't see how you addressed any of my points, but as usual just went off on your own tangent. A little focus please.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I see your point with the first quote, unless you were just attempting to shock me with BY teaching that the moon and the sun are inhabited. If so, sorry to disappoint, but I was already aware of it. <BR/><BR/>As far as the second quote, I tatabughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01465431241615511545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-59976938491906747642008-01-08T05:18:00.000-08:002008-01-08T05:18:00.000-08:00Tata from your Prophet Brigham Young about 'Fanati...Tata <BR/><BR/>from your Prophet Brigham Young about 'Fanatics' !<BR/><BR/>JD 13:271, Brigham Young, July 24, 1870<BR/>"I WILL TELL YOU WHO THE REAL FANATICS ARE: THEY ARE THEY WHO ADOPT FALSE PRINCIPLES AND IDEAS AS FACTS, AND TRY TO ESTABLISH A SUPERSTRUCTURE UPON A FALSE FOUNDATION. THEY ARE THE FANATICS; AND HOWEVER ARDENT AND ZEALOUS THEY MAY BE, THEY MAY REASON OR ARGUE ON FALSE PREMISES Elder Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12151167504450803568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-82790953839870048382008-01-08T04:27:00.000-08:002008-01-08T04:27:00.000-08:00Anonymous Yes you have respect for a man who threa...Anonymous<BR/><BR/> Yes you have respect for a man who threatens HELL to women who are reluctant to accept Polygamy.<BR/><BR/>Here is Brigham Young again incase you didn't read it the first time around..<BR/><BR/>Brigham Young Journal Of Discourses VOL 17 page 159<BR/><BR/>Brother George A. Smith has been reading a little out of the revelation concerning celestial marriage, and I want to say to Elder Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12151167504450803568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-63073988379173332372008-01-07T05:51:00.000-08:002008-01-07T05:51:00.000-08:00Thanks for that information from Elder Ballard, Ze...Thanks for that information from Elder Ballard, Zelph. I hadn't heard that. Maybe I should start my own blog.<BR/><BR/>EJ,<BR/><BR/>You really should stop with the rape accusations. It's a losing position. There is clear evidence that women within the Church had plenty of freedom to not engage in polygamy. No one forced them into it, and they were free to leave a polygamous marriage if they tatabughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01465431241615511545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-17482327123937329022008-01-06T19:24:00.000-08:002008-01-06T19:24:00.000-08:00elder joseph you said:"Thats 'Rape' and its exactl...elder joseph you said:<BR/><BR/>"Thats 'Rape' and its exactly what Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were doing with no conscience for anyone They were just sick self righteous megalomaniacs."<BR/><BR/>You can only quote a few sermons out of context. Where is your evidence from women who were raped.<BR/><BR/>You're off subject because you can't find anything to support your original assertion that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-62070205289827874692008-01-06T15:09:00.000-08:002008-01-06T15:09:00.000-08:00For Anonymous the LDS Here is where on record Brig...For Anonymous the LDS <BR/><BR/>Here is where on record Brigham Young Threatens HELL to the women resisting Plural Marriage.<BR/><BR/>A rapist can threaten with a knife ,can threaten with death or can threaten with Hell .Brigham chose Hell.<BR/><BR/>Now read carefully what he says and then try telling me that the women were grateful for this marriage system.<BR/><BR/>Brigham Young Journal Of Elder Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12151167504450803568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-81407395103749543922008-01-06T10:51:00.000-08:002008-01-06T10:51:00.000-08:00First, I am a different "anonymous" than the LDS a...First, I am a different "anonymous" than the LDS anonymous who has been posting here. I am the anonymous who posted (only once) on January 3rd. I wanted to make that clear because I do believe that the LDS members have been deceived by mormonism. The sad part is that many LDS are not interested in the truth. Jesus said "I am the way, the TRUTH and the light." It is the truth that will set Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-74948453890687260212008-01-05T16:31:00.000-08:002008-01-05T16:31:00.000-08:00Quoting EJ "One wonders why he didn't start his la...Quoting EJ "One wonders why he didn't start his land buying back then when he had the chance , it would have been worth a fortune now.LDS Co is really more of a business."<BR/><BR/>The church is a business, they incorporated under the name "<I>Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</I>" When I worked in the "Meganacle" that's who my pay checks were from. Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726005550858397355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-42731848575690173832008-01-05T16:25:00.000-08:002008-01-05T16:25:00.000-08:00elder joseph,You can't back up what you say. If yo...elder joseph,<BR/><BR/>You can't back up what you say. If you can't produce proof of rape by JS and BY as you originally asserted, then how about bringing forth some sort of proof that young women were duped into having sex with older men --like Jeffs was found quilty of. I contend that JS and BY never did anything even remotely like what Jeffs did--as you asserted. <BR/><BR/>To my knowlege theirAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-90432464106514500482008-01-05T13:32:00.000-08:002008-01-05T13:32:00.000-08:00anonymous you said"I'd like you to produce testimo...anonymous <BR/><BR/>you said<BR/><BR/>"I'd like you to produce testimony from the women that you claimed were "raped". 2<BR/><BR/>I have even heard of mormon women who are RAPED BY PRIESTHOOD HUSBANDS . <BR/><BR/>Your definition of RAPE being that someone signs some kind of sworn statement to the effect is twisted.<BR/><BR/>Having sex with an OLD mormon Leader because you have been 'called' intoElder Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12151167504450803568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-21351204864094500692008-01-04T16:37:00.000-08:002008-01-04T16:37:00.000-08:00elder joseph,Quoting your words:You said "I wish y...elder joseph,<BR/><BR/>Quoting your words:<BR/><BR/>You said "I wish you the best and hope that whatever road you take brings you happiness."<BR/><BR/>I don't believe you do at all. This is just Mormon style appeasement.<BR/>----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>I'm not into hate. I meant what I said, and I still do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-29862549241489641312008-01-04T16:33:00.000-08:002008-01-04T16:33:00.000-08:00elder joseph,You make many charges and claims.I'd ...elder joseph,<BR/><BR/>You make many charges and claims.<BR/><BR/>I'd like you to produce testimony from the women that you claimed were "raped". <BR/><BR/>Comparing Jeffs with JS and BY is dishonest. <BR/><BR/>So I leave it to you to back up what you say with some facts. If what you say is true then there should be many women who have left testimony to support your assertions that they were Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-56622339200037133532008-01-04T07:41:00.000-08:002008-01-04T07:41:00.000-08:00Anonymous you said"All that I can say is I know th...Anonymous you said<BR/><BR/>"All that I can say is I know that what Joseph Smith claims is true. Yes, there are many problems that come with the package. But for me it is unimportant."<BR/><BR/>One problem that comes with the package is that if you are female , you can be 'called' to marry and conceive with a priesthood holder ( usually prophet or apostle )that you have no natural affection Elder Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12151167504450803568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8445204255254702636.post-31521002572310099602008-01-04T00:18:00.000-08:002008-01-04T00:18:00.000-08:00Gostei muito desse post e seu blog é muito interes...Gostei muito desse post e seu blog é muito interessante, vou passar por aqui sempre =) Depois dá uma passada lá no meu site, que é sobre o <A HREF="http://www.provedorcrescenet.com" REL="nofollow">CresceNet</A>, espero que goste. O endereço dele é http://www.provedorcrescenet.com . Um abraço.<A HREF="4275420613" REL="nofollow"></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com